Re: You Don't Get to Fish Elliott Bay but the Tribes Do
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:59 pm
You guys are missing my point...
Yes, the mortality rate from a purse seine or a fishing line is lower per encounter than a gillnet...that's so obvious as to not even need stating.
However, if you kill 100 fish with a purse seine, or kill 100 fish with fishing lines, or kill 100 fish with gillnets, then it's still 100 fish dead...like I said, the method is irrelevant, it's the amount you kill that matters.
If a purse seiner does 50 sets and kills two per set, that's 100 dead...if 1000 wild fish are caught and released by sportfishermen, then that's about 100 dead fish...if a gillnetter does three sets and catches 100 wild Chinook, then that's 100 dead fish...it matters not how they died.
Ffej, a fish caught on a barbless hook and properly released, in the salt, has a great chance to survive...somewhere between 80 and 90 percent for Chinook...but that still means than somewheres between ten and twenty percent of them become crab bait or lunch for a sea lion...and the chances of catching a Green River ESA king outside of Elliott Bay is much better than "1 in a bizzillion"...as a matter of fact, if you went to the North of Falcon meetings you'd see a pretty fair approximation of how many of them are caught at Westport, at Neah Bay, at Sekiu, in the San Juans, and in Puget Sound...not to mention in Alaska and B.C. fisheries.
Ocean fish aren't spawning in the ocean, obviously...they're all on their way to some river, some where.
Fish on...
Todd
Yes, the mortality rate from a purse seine or a fishing line is lower per encounter than a gillnet...that's so obvious as to not even need stating.
However, if you kill 100 fish with a purse seine, or kill 100 fish with fishing lines, or kill 100 fish with gillnets, then it's still 100 fish dead...like I said, the method is irrelevant, it's the amount you kill that matters.
If a purse seiner does 50 sets and kills two per set, that's 100 dead...if 1000 wild fish are caught and released by sportfishermen, then that's about 100 dead fish...if a gillnetter does three sets and catches 100 wild Chinook, then that's 100 dead fish...it matters not how they died.
Ffej, a fish caught on a barbless hook and properly released, in the salt, has a great chance to survive...somewhere between 80 and 90 percent for Chinook...but that still means than somewheres between ten and twenty percent of them become crab bait or lunch for a sea lion...and the chances of catching a Green River ESA king outside of Elliott Bay is much better than "1 in a bizzillion"...as a matter of fact, if you went to the North of Falcon meetings you'd see a pretty fair approximation of how many of them are caught at Westport, at Neah Bay, at Sekiu, in the San Juans, and in Puget Sound...not to mention in Alaska and B.C. fisheries.
Ocean fish aren't spawning in the ocean, obviously...they're all on their way to some river, some where.
Fish on...
Todd